Comments for Test Facebook http://www.testfacebook.com The community for testing Facebook applications Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:18:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 Comment on Zen and the Art of Facebook Application Load Testing (Part 1) by Zen and the Art of Facebook Application Load Testing (Part 2) | Test Facebook http://www.testfacebook.com/2010/07/23/zen-and-the-art-of-facebook-application-load-testing-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-129 Zen and the Art of Facebook Application Load Testing (Part 2) | Test Facebook Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:18:21 +0000 http://www.testfacebook.com/?p=335#comment-129 [...] the last post, we discussed Robert Pirsig’s seminal book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and its [...] [...] the last post, we discussed Robert Pirsig’s seminal book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and its [...]

]]> Comment on K&R and thoughts on the Graph API by Sander Smith http://www.testfacebook.com/2010/04/25/kr-and-thoughts-on-the-grid-api/comment-page-1/#comment-96 Sander Smith Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:57:22 +0000 http://www.testfacebook.com/?p=217#comment-96 Wow, how did you get several copies of the first edition of K&R? I remember holding one once and feeling a great sense of reverance towards it. On the other hand, my understanding is that it's geared more towards compiler writers than app developers. I'm glad that you're stressing the fundamentals with your students. It's amazing what can be done with RoR and a spare 2 hours, but it's all flashy interface and database lookups. For real processing, there's so much more that needs to be understood. Wow, how did you get several copies of the first edition of K&R? I remember holding one once and feeling a great sense of reverance towards it. On the other hand, my understanding is that it’s geared more towards compiler writers than app developers.

I’m glad that you’re stressing the fundamentals with your students. It’s amazing what can be done with RoR and a spare 2 hours, but it’s all flashy interface and database lookups. For real processing, there’s so much more that needs to be understood.

]]> Comment on K&R and thoughts on the Graph API by William Spears http://www.testfacebook.com/2010/04/25/kr-and-thoughts-on-the-grid-api/comment-page-1/#comment-94 William Spears Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:03:30 +0000 http://www.testfacebook.com/?p=217#comment-94 Also, I use the *first* edition of K+R. Ha... ;-) Also, I use the *first* edition of K+R. Ha… ;-)

]]> Comment on K&R and thoughts on the Graph API by William Spears http://www.testfacebook.com/2010/04/25/kr-and-thoughts-on-the-grid-api/comment-page-1/#comment-93 William Spears Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:02:01 +0000 http://www.testfacebook.com/?p=217#comment-93 I taught CS3020 Analysis of Algorithms for 12 semesters at UW. It was supposed to be a C++ course. But, I also have 2-3 copies of K+R, so I made sure to throw in some C. It is really sad when 3rd year programming students don't know what printf is, and arrays (as opposed to vectors). I told them that they *will* encounter legacy C code, and not everything is cin and cout! Generally they actually wanted to learn more, and I did my best to oblige - but since they only had experience in C++ before I couldn't get very far. As far as "Who didn’t deeply understand how to properly analyze an algorithm.", well, I taught the course in a language independent fashion, so they should be able to apply the concepts if they learned them at all. Even w/r recursion. The biggest concern was a total inability to debug code, however. With the invention of stupid IDE's, they figure if it compiles it must be semantically correct. I must have repeated 1000 times: "The only real way to debug your code is to trace everything with printfs and do it the hard way - with real thinking". Things are much worse at the graduate research level - where CORRECTNESS is of enormous concern. Due to bad software engineering courses, I had to get them to unlearn all the bad habits and focus on correctness and speed. Ultimately I converted most of them to pure C folks. I taught CS3020 Analysis of Algorithms for 12 semesters at UW. It was supposed to be a C++ course. But, I also have 2-3 copies of K+R, so I made sure to throw in some C. It is really sad when 3rd year programming students don’t know what printf is, and arrays (as opposed to vectors). I told them that they *will* encounter legacy C code, and not everything is cin and cout! Generally they actually wanted to learn more, and I did my best to oblige – but since they only had experience in C++ before I couldn’t get very far.
As far as “Who didn’t deeply understand how to properly analyze an algorithm.”, well, I taught the course in a language independent fashion, so they should be able to apply the concepts if they learned them at all. Even w/r recursion.
The biggest concern was a total inability to debug code, however. With the invention of stupid IDE’s, they figure if it compiles it must be semantically correct. I must have repeated 1000 times: “The only real way to debug your code is to trace everything with printfs and do it the hard way – with real thinking”.
Things are much worse at the graduate research level – where CORRECTNESS is of enormous concern. Due to bad software engineering courses, I had to get them to unlearn all the bad habits and focus on correctness and speed. Ultimately I converted most of them to pure C folks.

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Hello :) I bookmarked this site. Thanks heaps for this!… if anyone else has anything, it would be much appreciated. Great website Super Pianoforte Enjoy!…

]]> Comment on Load testing Facebook apps (Part 1) by Test Facebook » Load testing Facebook apps (Part 2) http://www.testfacebook.com/2009/11/01/load-testing-facebook-apps-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Test Facebook » Load testing Facebook apps (Part 2) Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:39:17 +0000 http://www.testfacebook.com/?p=13#comment-4 [...] Part 1 of this article, we discussed that one of the reasons load testing Facebook apps was difficult was because [...] [...] Part 1 of this article, we discussed that one of the reasons load testing Facebook apps was difficult was because [...]

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